A former porn star embraces six cartoons that she learned to love hardcore.
Sasha Grey is a former porn actress turned legit actress, a move solidified with her roles in Steven Soderbergh's The Girlfriend Experience in 2009 and HBO's Entourage in 2010. She's now reflecting on the career she retired from in a new photography book titled Neü Sex. (It's filled with glossy pictorials, essays pondering pornography's place in society, and at least one irony-free Sartre quote.) Grey looked back even further in her past and pointed to six cartoon shows that she's found to be an acquired taste, yet ultimately quite delicious. We understand that thinking about Sasha Grey and cartoons at the same time might not come naturally, but not to worry, it's not like she's having a threesome with Pinky & The Brain. Narf!
The Venture Bros.
Brock Samson is probably the sexiest cartoon ever. [Laughs.] If he was a real guy, every woman would want him. I just think it's a hilarious show and the characters are all great. There are even a few [David] Bowie appearances, and I'm a big fan of him. So I just think they bring together so many different elements in the show. The Monarch is, you know, a failed bad guy. [Laughs.] It's kind of awesome.
That was one I started watching in the second season and I decided to stop until it came out on DVD and I went and grabbed the first two after the second one ended. I heard about that because at the time I didn't have cable, so the only show I watched was Aqua Teen Hunger Force. I was at a friend's house and they were like, "I have to turn this on! It doesn't matter what we're doing, I have to turn this on!"
“I think Aqua Teen was the first Adult Swim show I fell in love with, though I thought it was f***ing stupid the first time I saw it. ”
I think Aqua Teen was the first Adult Swim show I fell in love with, though I thought it was f***ing stupid the first time I saw it. I thought it was terribly racist, and not in a funny way. Obviously the show is irreverent, but things like watching the intro at first I was like, "What the hell is this? This is garbage!" Then I actually watched it instead of just watching the first few minutes and fell in love with that.
I have this weird thing, though, where if I get into a TV show that's not a cartoon, I have to watch it from the first season or I'll go crazy. I just feel like with a lot of the Adult Swim stuff you can just jump in and it'll always be reliably funny.
South Park
I used to hate that show, too.
Was there a specific episode or moment that you remember changing your opinion?
For the sake of conversation, Scott Tenorman and the chili episode. [Laughs.] Any time you have a cook-off in a show there's going to be some big excitement. But the fact that he, you know, got the ultimate revenge to his bully and killed his parents and put it in the chili. The best part was when he walked up to Scott's face and said, "Mmm, your tears taste so good." [Laughs.] You're laughing so hard, you're actually silent because you're curled in a ball. But when Radiohead shows up [while Scott Tenorman is crying because he just ate his family]? Having your favorite person watch you cry is the ultimate no-no for teenage boys.
“Having your favorite person watch you cry is the ultimate no-no for teenage boys.”
What about it didn't you really like at first?
I think initially it was the way it looked. I mean, I was like eight years old the first time I saw that. Eight or nine.
You just made a lot of people reading this feel really old.
[Laughs.] I mean, I was just too young to get a lot of the humor. It definitely wasn't the offensive part about it because that's what I like about it now. But a lot of people criticize South Park for going too far or playing with the same old tricks all the time, but I still think they're at the top of their game. They poke fun at pop culture just as much as your favorite gossip magazine does, except they make it funny. [Laughs.] They're interested in making fun of it and it's actually hilarious.
American Dad
I think it just keeps getting better with every episode with every season. It actually took me a while to get into it. I don't know what I didn't really like about it before, but I was just a little bored by it. Now I just find it hilarious. All the characters are great, though I'd have to say my favorite is Roger. [Laughs.] He just comes up with these ridiculous back stories about whoever he decides to be that day. He'll pull open his closet and he has 200 different wigs and 300 different outfits. It's just great.
Do you prefer that show to Family Guy?
It's tough to say, but I have been thinking about this a lot lately. I think it has surpassed Family Guy. It gets away with much more. I think once you get into American Dad, the humor, they just get into so much. Some f***ed up humor. I think cartoons are the last medium to be able to explore some really seedy things you wouldn't be able to do on a television show with real actors.
“I think cartoons are the last medium to be able to explore some really seedy things you wouldn't be able to do on a television show with real actors. ”
Humphrey The Bear
It's a long-lost Disney character. They only had a few seasons, maybe one or two. But I think this is something everyone needs to see. Man, it's hilarious. What I think is so great about it is there's not a lot of dialog and there's just a lot of action. It's kinda like physical comedy. That's the kind of chraracter Humphrey is. He's just this dumb bear that tries to do the right thing, but no matter how hard he tries he just f*** up. That's something everybody can relate to.
“He's just this dumb bear that tries to do the right thing, but no matter how hard he tries he just f*** up. ”
Eek! The Cat
I just always remember it was on after Bobby's World, so I couldn't wait for that to end. Eek was always like, "Sure! It never hurts to help." It was kinda the same Humphrey The Bear thing of always wanting to do the right thing, and not making a mistake, but he's just very incompetent. He was in love with this other girl cat. Their relationship always reminded me of the Kermit and Miss Piggy thing, where she's just this huge big woman and it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. He's just in love with her. And his dog, Sharky, hated Eek the cat. So Sharky was always finding ways to break up the relationship and get rid of Eek. There was this great episode, the only one I have on VHS anywhere, and it was called Pup Fiction. It was a whole Pulp Fiction-themed episode.
Pinky And The Brain
It's not really off the beaten path, maybe a little bit because it was very dark.
It feels very forgotten though, nowadays.
Doesn't it? I think during that time in my childhood I really loved that, like old-school Looney Tunes and Foghorn Leghorn. That stuff I have always loved. But I remember with Pinky And The Brain, it was definitely the standout from that time. It was just different. Different from the rest. I think it deals with a broader spectrum than the other shows. Kinda like with Dick Dastardly, you watch him and you know what's gonna happen. But Pinky And The Brain was always entertaining and always kinda changing, evolving.
I often walk around just saying, "Brain!" in a very bad accent. [Laughs.] I just like the whole nature of, "What are we going to do today?" "Take over the world." That's always stuck with me. I remember this really bizarre -- I mean, I haven't even seen it in so long -- Abraham Lincoln episode where they went into his monument. My memory may be spotty on this, so I could be exaggerating. But I'm pretty sure they went into the monument and controlled it. That was part of Brain's way of taking over the world. Another cool episode was them trying to go into space.
You know, Ren & Stimpy also had an episode with Abraham Lincoln in it and another with space travel. Why do you think there's a fascination with some shows with that?
Because space is frickin' cool! [Laughs.] I don't know, I think it plays into the fantasy with space travel that everyone kinda has. If you don't have it, then something's wrong with you.
But there is this weird thing with Abe Lincoln, and it's not just in cartoons. There's always people in TV shows and in magazines poking fun at him and I don't get it.
Is it too soon?
[Laughs.] It's just interesting.
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