The Delocated! creator/star reflects on a life well spent...between two slices of lightly-toasted ciabatta.
The year 2012 might sound futuristic and creepy, but one unchanging constant is the fact that nerds and jocks remain locked in an eternal struggle for being cool. Some nerds escape this fight completely, graduate, and become wildly famous and don't allow their nerd-dom to continue to define them as a person.
In Celeb-Nerdy, we ask some of these famous movers and shakers to geek out on whatever they want to. In this edition, we talk to Jon Glaser of Delocated! -- season three premieres Feb. 2 at midnight -- about a subject almost worryingly near and dear to his hopefully non-clogged heart: sandwiches.
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So what's with you and sandwiches? You have a bit of a love affair with them.
Yeah, I enjoy sandwiches. I don't know if there was a specific sandwich that started the whole thing. It was probably more of a gradual thing over time of just realizing here's something I like, and sticking with it. [Laughs.]
“If it's a finger sandwich or a cute little PB&J, that's not going to be as offensive as a burrito or a big messy footlong hoagie...”
Are sandwiches your favorite food? Do you even have a favorite food?
I don't know if I have a favorite food. I can't even really think of how it all came to be, as far as sandwiches and sandwich humor. For some reason it just strikes me as funny when someone is eating a sandwich in a scene. It just seems obnoxious to me. If someone is an asshole in a scene -- and it is fun just to play an asshole because they say fun and dumb things and you get to act like a jerk and stupid and obnoxious -- when you have that person eat a sandwich on top of being an asshole, I think it just makes them a bigger asshole. Either that or chewing gum. They just show you how much they don't give a s*** about you or what they have to say to you or what you have to say to them, because they are eating while they're being an asshole. It always seems funny. On top of that, I do like sandwiches. [Laughs.] In real life. But it just became a fun thing to do for the character [of Jon].
What is the epitome of a sandwich that shows you don't give a crap? It seems like a peanut butter and jelly wouldn't cut it. It's too ordinary.
[Laughs.] If it's a finger sandwich or a cute little PB&J, that's not going to be as offensive as a burrito or a big messy footlong hoagie that's just got way too much meat in it, lettuce, tomato… way too much meat is insulting not even from a standpoint of, "Hey, I'm trying to talk to this person and they're eating an overstuffed sandwich." It's just, that's way too much food, you know they're not going to finish it, it's going to get thrown away.
It's wasteful.
It's wasteful. I don't know if you've ever been to the Carnegie Deli. That's just the most obnoxious place. It's awful. I can't imagine how much they throw away. It's just too much to eat. I'm sure you can take it home and have leftovers, but I'm guessing the majority of people don't do that and they throw it away. It makes me mad.
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When was the last time you were there?
I have not been there in years. When I worked at Conan, we would sometimes order food in for dinner and I remember once we ordered from there. It was just obscene how much food got left over. I hope we called a shelter. It was awful. Disgusting. I don't even think it's that great. It's very touristy.
“Oh, man! That sounds good. That sounds really good. It's too early to be feeling this hungry.”
What sandwich places do you usually go to in New York?
Katz's is pretty good as far as delis go. There's a place, Barney Greengrass, on the Upper West Side that's truly amazing. It's not really a sandwich place, but it's excellent. As far as sandwich places, I really really love City Subs, which is in Brooklyn. That's not far from me. I like Potbelly. It's a chain, but it's really good.
What do you like to get at Potbelly?
I think maybe a ham and cheese. What do you like to get at Potbelly?
Usually a tuna-salad sandwich with salt and vinegar chips and a root beer.
Oh, man! That sounds good. That sounds really good. It's too early to be feeling this hungry. I don't think I've had the tuna. I haven't been there in a while to know the menu even. God, where have I gone recently that's really delicious?
Did you go to Zingerman's when you were at U of M?
Oh my God. Zingerman's is so good. The quality of their meat is good, they have great bread, the sandwich there that I love… I can't think of it. They all have, you know, schticky names. It was like a turkey on challah with maybe Muenster and Russian… It was heated. Oh my God. So good.
Is that why you decided to go to school there?
[Laughs.] Yeah, when I was going to college I did a sandwich tour of colleges. [Laughs.] Zingerman's won out because of their sandwiches. Thankfully it was a good school.
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So when you think back on certain times in your life, like your college days, are there certain sandwiches you gravitated towards that maybe you don't eat anymore?
[Laughs.] There's nothing I really gravitated to as a kid. I remember having ketchup and bologna. Speaking of which, there's a very good sandwich shop in New York called No. 7 Sub and it's on Broadway somewhere near 29th Street. They have a bologna sandwich that's amazing. It's like this thick-cut, high-quality bologna. [Laughs.] I just went there with my friend and he said, "Trust me. I know it sounds gross but it's so good." It's also got brussel sprouts on it, like they chop it up. And it's got vindaloo mayo and pickle-red onion on it. It is dee-licious. I would highly recommend it. The menu has some very delicious photos on it.
“Right off the boat, right to the restaurant, right onto my plate. It was unreal. Dee-licious.”
I will say maybe the best sandwich I've ever had was when I was in Homer, Alaska. I was doing the Second City touring company, and we got to do this really amazing tour. We spent six days in Alaska and six days in the Northwest -- in the lower 48, as Alaskans say. We were in Homer for three days and it was really awesome. We did a show, but we also did some workshops with the people in town. We had time to just hang out and just be tourists. There's not much touristy stuff in Homer, Alaska, but I asked the people in town, "Tomorrow I have the day off and I want to go mountain biking. Is there any place that rents bikes?" And some guy said, "I got an extra bike! I'll take ya!" We just went for this two-hour mountain bike ride in these amazing mountains and there was this little cafe in Homer, which is the self-proclaimed halibut-fishing capital of the world. There's a big sign that said that. That's their industry. So it was this incredible halibut sandwich that was an hour or two fresh. Right off the boat, right to the restaurant, right onto my plate. It was unreal. Dee-licious.
You mentioned the shticky names of sandwiches, which is a gimmick kinda unique to sandwiches. Like, there aren't bowls of pasta named for celebrities. How do you feel about them?
[Laughs.] For sure, it does seem like it's a sandwich thing. I don't have a problem with it. I think it's fun. We did that thing in Delocated. I can't remember the whole list, it was really, really stupid. Like, "Indiana Jones and the Tempe of Doom."
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Oh, here's the one from Zingerman's. I got it. Pat & Dick's Honeymooner. [Laughs.] The No. 27. Smoked turkey breast, Wisconsin Muenster, sweet-hot honeycup mustard on grilled challah bread.
Sounds like it's bringing back memories for you.
Oh my God. I really want to one of those. So good. Holy s***. [Laughs.] I'm really hungry right now for that. [Laughs.] Oh my God. There's some good names on here. Tarb's Tenacious Tenure! Kelly's Menage a Turkey! That's a bad one. It's very punny. Very cutesy. "Menage a turkey"? Yecch. That's one we would have made fun of.
If you had a sandwich named for you, what would be in it?
[Laughs.] I don't think I've ever been asked that question. I'm surprised. I kinda feel like it would be a turkey. I'm having this strong emotional sense memory right now. I think it might be that Pat & Dick's Honeymooner I was explaining to you before.
“Yeah, I think a chip can make or break the meal.”
That's already named for someone else, so you'd have to add a twist of some sort to make it your own.
Yeah, what would be "The Jon"? I'll say this. It's not a fancy one, but my instinctual answer without thinking about it too much is probably a nice smoked turkey with Russian, and a good high-quality ciabatta with coleslaw and tomato. Maybe one slice of Swiss.
Chips or pickle?
Let's do a new dill. A good chip. I'll say a chip of the person's choice.
That's very diplomatic of you to let people pick the chip. It's your sandwich, but it's their choice.
Yeah, I think a chip can make or break the meal. You could have a really good sandwich, and then be like, "Ah, this chip's not so great." And that's very disappointing. [Laughs.] There's a lot of good chips and really good flavors. You gotta be careful. You gotta pick the right flavor to complement the sandwich. It's like a wine pairing.
What about your character from Delocated? What would his sandwich be?
It seems like he'd have a really obnoxious -- like a heaping pile of pastrami, sauerkraut… Let's say a rib sandwich. [Laughs.] Just disgusting, not good, barbecue sandwich. Messy. Filthy. If you were watching him eat it you would be disgusted. Yecch.
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